Thursday, November 13, 2008

Health Care Question

Hey Guys--

So our discussion of health care and the uninsured spurred some good discussion. I'd like you to address which of the possible models you feel is most appropriate. Please read the Advantages and Disadvantages from the packet and write a comment about which one you feel is best and WHY. Use examples. 

Also! Respond to someone else's comment, and directly address their reasons. Be polite and respectful, but also disagree if you think they are wrong. Let's get a discussion going on here. 


41 comments:

Chandler said...

Hello. I was sick today so i came home last night after my game ate and went to bed. So right now I am looking for the Questions on the economic crisis. I cant find them.Also When should I turn in this assignment? Monday or Friday?

Could u please tell me where they are or give me them. Before Whenever you want me to turn them in.

CJ Triana said...

@ Chandler: Chandler it's CJ. The questions are on the back of the packet that Mr. Yedid gave us.

CJ Triana said...

Now for the real deal: I think the model that is most appropriate is the multi-payer system. I think it is more appropriate because it ensures that everyone gets health while giving people the option of sticking with their original insurance plan. It also does not eliminate eliminate previous private insurance companies. There are already 45 million uninsured people, plus 16 million thought to be uninsured, in America so this model will help keep millions of Americans from dying and keep their lifes insured.

Haley Klaus said...

I think the Multi-Payer System is the best for our Country because the people who can afford health insurance can still pay for their own plan and the people who can't afford health insurance can get it too. Although you might have to pay a little more taxes, everyone would be a lot healthier because disease wouldn't spread as easily. It also keep the private insurance companies in business. This is the best choice for our Country because everyone will have health insurance.

Isabelle said...

I think that the multi-player system is the best choice. It seems like it would be the fairest to all of the people who can't afford coverage. Besides, it's not like you have to be stuck with the governmental insurrence, because you can keep the insurence you like if you have enough money. And in class we sad it was only about $400 a year, so that's easy enough to pay off! It's a totally reasonable price compared to the money some people are paying right now for their coverage. I guess it's a good thing that Obama is leaning toward this system, since he's the new presidental elect...or whatever it's called.

Isabelle said...

I think that the multi-player system is the best choice. It seems like it would be the fairest to all of the people who can't afford coverage. Besides, it's not like you have to be stuck with the governmental insurrence, because you can keep the insurence you like if you have enough money. And in class we sad it was only about $400 a year, so that's easy enough to pay off! It's a totally reasonable price compared to the money some people are paying right now for their coverage. I guess it's a good thing that Obama is leaning toward this system, since he's the new presidental elect...or whatever it's called.

Emily Yun said...

i think that the multi payer system is the best because everyone gets good health insurance like the senators and you can have the choice if you want a different one this is a good system because everyone can have health coverage.

Emily Yun said...

i pretty much agree with everyone because i agree that it is good for everyone to get insured because then it will benefit for us to pay less taxes and people dont have to suffer for a health problem they cannot pay for

Anthony Joaquin said...

About those health ideas, like CJ, i also think that the multi-payer system, all people need good health care, but if people need better insurance they can pay for it, which make it better for both people, and there isn't much negatives about the multi-payer system. There are about 70 million people under or uninsured, they need some, and also the insurance people can still keep there jobs. That is why i think Multi-payer system is very good.

Unknown said...

I think that the multi-payer System is the best system because it provides everyone with the right to get health care. Also, it is better than the single-payer system because the multi-payer allows people who can afford health care to choose their own health care. I don't think that the other two plans would work because I don't think that the people would be able to raise enough money.

Unknown said...

I agree with pretty much everyone else because they also thought that the multi-payer system was the best system because ofwhat it was planning to do.

CJ Triana said...

@ Everyone: I agree with everyone because the multi-payer system will insure everyone and it will give people who can still pay for insurance the option of keeping their previous insurance companies.

ãɳɳÿ ħuãɳġ said...

I think that the multi-payer system is the best because it gives people the right to choose their plan and stick with their healthcare companies and everyone has healthcare. Even if taxing is going to go up, it won't go up by that much, and who wouldn't care about the people who are under-/uninsured? Obama made a good choice!

~Anny

Anonymous said...

I think the multi-payer system is the best way for people to get health insurance because if some people are uninsured, then there would be a lot more sicknesses going around. It would only be paying a little more taxes, but its best for the other people who don't have health insurance. however, in class, we said that it costs about $400 a year for a person, right? so if we were to pay the health insurance for all the uninsured people, how much would that raise our taxes? Besides that, i think the multi-payer system is the best way to go.

* said...

i think that the multi-payer system is the best because then even though we will have to pay a little higher taxes people who are not as fortunate as us can still have health insurance. If they can not afford health insurance and do get sick they can not only not go to work to make money, but also may become broke because they did not have health insurance to help them pay for the hospital visit.

ãɳɳÿ ħuãɳġ said...

Ahaha, everyone agrees! I doubt that there even will be a discussion this time...

Anonymous said...

I think that the multi-player system is the best for our country. The system doesn't make anyone more or less special. The basic health care system should cover what everyone needs. And if you are fortunate enough to have more money you could do a personal heath care plan.
i basically agree with everyone. The majority thought multi-player plan was the best and i agree!

Anonymous said...

Ok... here's the thing:

The multi-payer system is a good idea, but it means that the people who want different healthcare are paying for the old healthcare still through taxes. It seems that people who are trying to stretch a few pennys for high quality healthcare, maybe for a sick family member, would have to be paying taxes because the regular government healthcare couldn't deal with the multi-million dollar treatement. I know when my sister was in the hospital for 6 months the last time it cost over $5 MILLION to pay for those months. That was only for 6 months. I know that the economy would save billions of dollars but we would be paying a lot in other people's healthcare through taxes.

I really don't like any of the healthcare plans... it seems the multi-payer system is going to go through though... I think it should be paid for by the government or maybe half through loans... the government could cut some spending like the wars in the middle east and we would be able to afford healthcare for everyone.

@Beckie: you said it was $400 per person? Didn't Mr. Yedid say it was $6,000 per person?

Anonymous said...

@Delaney: sry delaney, maybe it was $6,000 for a person. still, thats a lot more than 400, which
means we'd be paying 15 times more than 400.

ãɳɳÿ ħuãɳġ said...

@ Delaney and Beckie- Wasn't it $5k? Or was it $4k? It can't've been $400. That'd be pathetic. A lot of families don't even make $20k a year, and healthcare costs about $12k. There's no way that $400 could cover healthcare!

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone. I think the multi-payer system would work best with everybody because it makes sure everybody is insured and for wealthier people, you can change to their desired health plan. The disadvantages are that people would loser their private sector jobs and physicians would overspend causing a slowdown in technological advancement.

- Arielle Kantor

BadLuckSam said...

I think that the Multi-Payer System is the best for our country. I believe this because it ensures that everyone gets health care but also allows people to buy their own private insurance. This is a good idea because people get health insurance automatically but they can also buy better insurance if they can afford it.

I agree with parker when he said that the other plans would not work because the people would not be able to raise enough money to pay for their insurance.

Eric said...

i also think the multi-payer system is the best choice of the ones in the packet. i think it has the potential to do well because it gives insurance to people who do not have, but will not make people who do have give up their insurance for one that is not as good. However, it is not great because people could lose their jobs and it has some problems that the single-payer system has.

Logan E. said...

I believe that the multi-payer system is a good health care system because it not only ensures that everyone will have health care but also the buyer will be provided with privacy unlike the single-payer system.

keane hindle said...

I think that the multi-payer system is by far the best. it taxes americans just a tiny bit more so that everyone in america would have some sort of health insurance.

Hope schulman said...

I think that the Multi Payer System is the best because, It ensures that everyone will get heath care, but still give people the option of choosing other kinds of care.

Hope schulman said...

I also agree with everyone who like the Multi Payer System.

Alorenz7 said...

I agree with Anny. The multi-payer system is best. It gives people the right to choose if they want to stay with they're original tax plan, go to a new one, and as Anny said again, who would't care about the uninsured?
Bye

Alexander

Anonymous said...

@beckie: you are contradicting yourself. you said we wouldn't have to pay much more in taxes because it costs $400 per person. Now you say that $6000 is 15 times more money... that means we would be paying 15 times more in taxes than you said we would. That is a ton of money to keep people insured. My dad is a doctor and he said that out of 100 people in the Emergency Room, only about 30 people pay their bills so these people who are uninsured are currently getting healthcare without paying a dime!!!

*Kati Perry said...

I think that the multi-player system is the best way to go because: 1.) you are able to purchase insurance privately 2.) this system is also 'politically favored' because it doesn't get rid of the private insurance companies at all, it just allows people to choose what kind of health care company that they want. I think that cj put this the best when he said, "that there are already 45 million uninsured people, plus 16 million thought to be uninsured in america".

*Kati Perry said...

so that shows that there are A LOT of un-insured people. Also, since america is one of the only countries in the world that doesn't have this system in placed, and as mr. yedid said earlier, "that's kind of embarrising".

Kristen Ochoa said...

I think that the multi-payer system is the best because everyone gets insurured, but citizens can still choose to pay for their own independent insurance. The way that there is two options is important becuase people with lots of enough money can still choose their own insurance and pay for it, while those who don't have enough money can still get insured through the government. Also, even though i am not in love with Obama, I do agree with how he side on the multi-payer system in opposition to how Mccain sides with the Tax Credits. :)

Kristen Ochoa said...

So i agree with everyone, but especially CJ!

Touran Fardeen said...

(I basically agree with almost everyone who likes the multi-payer system.)

I like the Multi-Player system the best because it ensures that everyone will get health care coverage, but it also lets you keep your regular insurance plan if you want. I like that everyone gets health care because it will help decrease our death rate and give everyone a brighter future.

Ben Moores said...

I think the multi-payer system is the best kind of health care program. This makes everybody has the choice stay with their health care or to get health care through this plan if they want. This way everybody has insurance and they aren’t forced to do anything that they want to do. It won’t make your insurance or taxes sky rocket ether.It makes everybody happy and I agree with everybody that is for the multi-payer system

Anonymous said...

I have two opinions.

Short term: I think with a new president and government, we may want to use the tax credit system so that our new government has a little breathing room and so they don't have so much work to do right away.

Long term: I agree with Kristen and CJ and everyone else about multi payer system because you can have a little more freedom in you healthcare. Also, people who for some reason do not want health care are not required to get it.

Logan (not the Dings) said...

None of them seem that good, but I think that the managed competition is the best one. I think so because, as I understand it, everyone is getting insurance and the businesses and the employees that work for them split the employees' insurance, which helps reduce the amount they have to pay, but the insurance companies have a greater control on the market, which is not a good thing. Like I said, none of them seem REALLY good.

Anonymous said...

I disagree the multi-payer system. With the multi-payer system everyone who can not afford health insurance is going to be put under 1 insurance program. The problem with everyone on the same health plan is if the service is not good then you have no other choices of health care unless you by some chance make a ton of money and can afford to buy your own insurance. So basically everyone who cant afford health insurance gets the single payer system. In the Canadian system which is the single payer system there is only so much money for certain procedures. So if all the money for heart surgery is used up by June of the year then someone who needs heart surgery in say November will be put on a waiting list for the following year. So the person could die by then. Substandard health care would occur.

With the tax credit health care plan all unisured people will be given money to purchase health care of their choice.

I think though that for health care there shouldn't be state borders because then people will go to where health care is the least expensive. Other states will want to lower their cost to atract buyer. There fore health care will become less expensive.

kadys said...

I think that the multi- payer system is the best way for our country, because if we did the singlepayer system, lot's of people would get sick and die and theb they're kids might also get sick and die and so on.

Anonymous said...

well kady people are going to get sick and die no matter what. with the multi payer system there are 2 levels. the level with the people who can afford health insurance who get to choose which ever health insurance they choose and the people who cant afford health insurance who get the single payer insurance

XhiDae said...

I think multi-payer is the best choice, because not everyone will ike the plan their given. This way, they have a choice in the matter.